What I Shared at the CONSPIRE Conference (1/2): Certainty, Uncertainty, and the Path of Descent

Here’s a PDF of the slides of my plenary session at Center for Action and Contemplation in Albuquerque last weekend.

uncertainty cac plenary

For more about the CAC, founded by the beloved Richard Rohr, check out:



To learn more about my conversation partner in the lecture, Howard Thurman, just google his name. I’d recommend you begin with Jesus and the Disinherited and then read his autobiography, With Head and Heart. What a treasure!

The beautiful final song, I Will, by Andy Gullahorn, is from his new album, Beyond the Frame, which is available here:

Beyond the Frame

You can learn more about Andy here:


and you’ll find the lyrics here:


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